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232: Sam Brown and the Concert for George

Long on the list of my coveted guests has been singer-songwriter Sam Brown. The daughter of Joe Brown – an early UK rock legend – and Vicki Brown – an astonishingly gifted singer herself – Sam’s career as an artist kicked off in 1988 with Stop!, the first of seven albums. (The first letter of the titles spell out her name – the 8th installment, titled Number 8 is due out this year.) Sam is also known for singing with Pink Floyd and David Gilmour, as well as on television and on tour with Jools Holland. It was with Jools that Sam took center stage at the 2002 Concert for George, stealing the show with her reading of George’s last recorded composition, “Horse To The Water.” She has remained active as a performer and a recording artist, despite tragically losing her ability to sing in 2007, following surgery. The mysterious condition forced a re-think of her career and led to her establishing a decade-long running group of clubs empowering folks to take up ukulele. In this conversation, we discuss her career and the struggles of being an artist – her friendship with the Harrisons and working with George – the concert – and how she’s managed the challenging events that followed. Sam is a resourceful and resilient artist whose rich catalog is worth exploring. You can check out her work here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZF1DZ06evO1Tns40 Vicki Brown’s farewell to fans: https://youtu.be/b0SCoEu_9oM Joe Brown sharing a 1964 stage with The Beatles: https://youtu.be/GjNB-2Bq6ag Sam at Concert for George: https://tinyurl.com/34un27f6 “Stop!” live: https://youtu.be/WROOE-0IfjE “Valentine Moon” – fixed: https://tinyurl.com/548b7ssb Terri Hemmert’s Breakfast with The Beatles on Sunday at 8am CDT: https://www.audacy.com/wxrt/beatles

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231B Beatles Olympiad: Help! & Rubber Soul + part 2

The conclusion of the discussion Gary Wenstrup and I had in rating individual tracks on the albums named here, as well as the 1966 Capitol release, “Yesterday”…and Today.   I think, is so overlooked, both message-wise and musical construction-wise. It’s one of those songs, first of all, musically, based on piano. Not a lot of guitar, except those little stabbing, which was a 1965 sound in other people’s records that year. Nice block harmonies. Then John breaking out his own for the verses, starting this implicitly spiritual song, the first words out of his mouth of the verse in the beginning. Nice touch. That’s beautiful. It’s this precursor to certainly, All You Need is Love and Give Peace A Chance. It’s him. It’s messianic John for the first time, really wanting to use his platform to promote something good. They’d said that they’re all potheads at this point. I mean, they’d taken acid a couple of times at this point, but not the full immersion by the time of Revolver. That has to be what’s informing his wanting to evangelize on behalf of love at this point. It’s interesting that they didn’t use this one for Yellow Submarine, because that whole love thing at the end in pepper land, in the face of the mayonnaise, it seems like it would be enmeshed right in there. I guess, they had All You Need Is Love. That was what they went with. I think, it’s a great message, a great performance, nice arrangement. I love that organ. Then there’s that whole musical, we’re going to build a song around one note and it’s got that drone throughout it, so you’ve got that musical experimentation going on at the same time. Not a song that got a lot of airplay. I don’t know if anybody ever covered it. One, they never seemed to look back at it, but it’s an early clue to the new direction. It’s just this forerunner of lots of things that would come and they just pull it off. They don’t sound like you’re being preached to. It works as a pop ditty, but also, it’s like, wow, it’s got a really good message to it, that’s bigger than boy-girl relationships.  

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231 Beatles Olympiad: Help! & Rubber Soul +

In which Gary Wenstrup and I return where we left off in offering our picks in ranking Bronze, Silver and Gold tracks off of The Beatles’ 1965 releases, as well as a little beyond. This show represents the first hour of our conversation

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230: Erin Weber Q&A

Given Beatles author and historian Erin Weber’s recently announced sabbatical from Beatling these days, I wanted to share with SATB listeners the Q&A we held last year for Fab4ConJam, where she fielded questions on the Beatles’ literary canon. Authors covered included: Lewisohn (of course) Michael Braun Peter McCabe Barry Miles Mark Hertsgaard And much more…Also revealed: her favorite Beatles music – favorite Beatle – and why she detests “Jet.” Erin’s website: https://beatlebioreview.wordpress.com/ Erin’s podcast: https://anchor.fm/karen-hooper/episodes/All-Together-Now-A-different-approach-to-Beatle-Podcasting-e14v3rc

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229: Something Deconstructed

My guests are returning musician Jack Petruzzelli (Fab Faux, Joan Osborne, Patti Smith), joined by Cameron Greider (Freedy Johnston, Sean Lennon, Rufus Wainwright), who in the past year developed a series of online Beatles classes.

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228B: A Women’s History of The Beatles part two

“Every aspect of what they put out there just became so attractive to people who encountered it, whether it was in the 60s, (when) it was all new, or later generations interfacing with that material, and still being dazzled by all the aspects of it. Not just the music, but the evolving style that they had. Again, as Brian Epstein said so beautifully, he was overwhelmed by their personal charm. Everybody is overwhelmed by The Beatles’ personal charm. Everybody.” The concluding hour of my conversation of Dr. Christine Feldman-Barrett (A Women’s History of The Beatles) covers The role of women in setting examples for The Beatles when they were young. The effects that The Beatles had on the women who enjoyed watching them. Perspectives on screaming at concerts and what it expressed. How The Beatles held themselves played a role in changing cultural norms for women. How The Beatles have helped people to see the beauty in everyday life.

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227B The Girls’ Get Back part two

In this continuation of the conversation with Debbie Gendler (1st US Beatles fan) and cartoonist/author Carol Tyler (Fab 4 Mania), Dr. Allison Bumsted and I explore the 1st generation fan’s perspectives on: Supporting players in Get Back Mal Evans and Billy Preston How Get Back may influence future generations The life-changing force of The Beatles Carol’s missing original albums   Check out this excerpt from the I Was A Teenage Screamer panel at the first Fab4ConJam www.debbiegendler.com https://www.fantagraphics.com/collections/carol-tyler www.allisonbumsted.com

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227A: The Girls’ Get Back part one

In the latest of the SATB series examining Peter Jackson’s Get Back, we bring on returning guests Debbie Gendler (first in heard in 121: New York Stories); the first US Beatles fan, plus cartoonist/author Carol Tyler (first heard in 146: Fab 4 Mania). In so doing, we present a first generation fan perspective and reaction to the documentary. My special guest co-host: Dr. Allison Bumsted, who herself previously guested in 2019 in 176A and 176B: Critiquing The Critics: A Case Study with Wings

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226C The Musician’s Get Back part three

In this concluding hour of the conversation with Dennis Diken (The Smithereens), Pat Sansone (Wilco), Arion Salazar (ex-Third Eye Blind) and Luther Russell (Those Pretty Wrongs), we discuss: The Get Back film as therapy for fans (and the world) Billy Preston Ringo and Paul observations Jamming with Heather

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226B: The Musician’s Get Back part two

Our panel of Pat, Arion, Luther and Dennis continues their conversation on Peter Jackson’s Get Back documentary. Among the topics: The rooftop performance The “Flowerpot conversation” Bass stuff The road to Abbey Road Let It Be – the film Partial transcript of the “Flowerpot Conversation” here.

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226A: The Musician’s Get Back part one

Any analysis of the Get Back documentary would be remiss in not factoring in insights gleaned from those who’ve followed in The Beatles’ professional footsteps: working musicians. To that end, I assembled a panel of some illustrious pros who also happen to be hardcore fans. Three are returning guests; one is new to SATB: Luther Russell: (Those Pretty Wrongs) – multi-instrumentalist Currently performing as one half of the duo Those Pretty Wrongs alongside ex-Big Star Jody Stephens, Luther has become a semi-regular on the podcast. As a singer-songwriter and multi-instrumentalist/producer, he has discussed The Beatles’ recording techniques, work as a collaborative, and the magic of Ringo’s drumming. The first two albums from Those Pretty Wrongs are being reissued as a double album set, while a third is due out this year. He will also have a new solo set out as well. Arion Salazar: (ex-Third Eye Blind) – bass In his first appearance on SATB, he discussed Paul McCartney as an innovator, impacting generations beyond the 1960s. It was Arion who offered up the back cover design of Third Eye Blind’s multi-platinum 1997 debut (“Semi-Charmed Life”) which evoked the back cover of The Beatles’ 1966 Revolver album. In early 2021, the bassist put together ensembles of musicians from bands including Smash Mouth, Smashing Pumpkins, Stevie Wonder and Testament, among others, to perform heartfelt covers of Beatle-related material for the first Fab4ConJam. He recently recorded with Flipsyde in Muscle Shoals for a pending release this year. Pat Sansone: (Wilco) – multi-instrumentalist He waxed eloquently for over two hours on the Sgt. Pepper album on a 2021 episode of SATB. Pat’s radio show: Baroque Down Palace – a 2 hour show every month that centers on Rock, Pop, Soul, Folk music of the 1960s and 1970s that feature symphonic embellishments, or influence in some way from the classical music world:https://wyxr.org/baroque-down-palace/ Pat has released a 7″ vinyl single ; a book of his photography, 100 Polaroids, was recently reissued. New to the show (but not The Beatles): drummer Dennis Diken, founding member of The Smithereens. In addition to their work over the course of several gold and platinum releases, he and his band recorded a pair of studio albums and one live one honoring The Beatles. They currently continue to perform live, alternately fronted by Gin Blossoms vocalist Robin Wilson and recording artist Marshall Crenshaw (also a previous SATB guest), in place of the late Pat DiNizio. He also records with Bell Sound, whose critically acclaimed album Late Music was released in 2009. Look for new material from both bands in ’22. Dennis’s radio show: Denny’s Den airs weekly on Wednesday at 2-4pm Eastern Standard Time. Go to wfmu.org and hover over “LISTEN” then go down to “ROCK ‘n’ SOUL RADIO”, slide to the right and click on “ROCK ‘n’ SOUL RADIO HOMEPAGE” to access archives and the weekly broadcast.

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225B: Beatles Olympiad II

In which returning guest Gary Wenstrup and I continue our ranking conversation of faves, discussing A Hard Day’s Night and Beatles For Sale.  Along the way, we analyze their vocals and blendings, as well as what personal experiences may inform the writing.

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224C The Making of Get Back part three with Peter Jackson

In the third and final hour, Dan Rivkin (They May be Parted blog) and I explore more of the Get Back project with its director. Among the subjects discussed: ~ Coordination between the Get Back book, the Let It Be album reissue and this film (hint: none)   ~ Directives from the Beatle heirs and Apple (hint: none)   ~ Michael Lindsay-Hogg’s original draft of Let It Be   ~ The missing Nagra audio ~ An extended cut? And MUCH more… Be sure to check out parts one and two, as well as the write up in Forbes.

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224B: The Making of Get Back part two with Peter Jackson

Dan Rivkin (They May Be Parted blog) and I continue our conversation with director Peter Jackson about the innovation used to create the film –  some technique used to advance the story – and a number of other observations gleaned from viewing so many hours of footage, both in and outside of the final cut. The history of the Get Back project is at last coming into focus, challenging a number of previously held assumptions. #thebeatlesgetback, #getback, #beatlesdocumentary, #peterjackson, #somethingaboutthebeatles, #beatlespodcast, #theymaybeparted, #danrivkin, #robertrodriguez, #robertrodriguezbeatles

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224A: The Making of Get Back part one with Peter Jackson

Well, it’s finally here. Worth the wait? Oh, we think so! But before we get into discussions on SATB about what we thought about it, we thought it would be worthwhile to discuss the making of it – the intent behind it; the goals; the challenges; the nuts-and-bolts – with someone who worked on it. To that end, a listener in New Zealand offered himself up as a guest who could offer an insight or two. My co-host for this one is Dan Rivkin (They May Be Parted), who of course is one of the leading scholars on this material, presented on his blog. Normally, Dr. Duncan Driver would be part of the discussion too, but he had beg off with such short notice. (We’ll have him back next time…) Meanwhile, we hope that this – presented in three parts (in the grand tradition of Peter Jackson)  – will suffice.

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223: The Beatles 1971 – 1973

We have all made compilations of Beatles solo material, but within this large group, a smaller group has imagined taking some of this material and arranging it as The Beatles might have, had they recorded this material and issued it as “Beatles,” the collective.

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222: On Pepper

SATB has touched on the Sgt. Pepper album in the past, but never like this. My guests, Pat Sansone (of Wilco and The Autumn Defense) and Luther Russell (Those Pretty Wrongs)

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220: Get Back to Peter Jackson

In June and again in July, the director of the upcoming The Beatles: Get Back series gave interviews – in Vanity Fair and in GQ – holding forth on what to expect from his re-tooling of the Beatles Let It Be project. Though there was a certain amount of rehashing what had already been said, there were also things that provided much to discuss and analyze as we approach the countdown to broadcast. I therefore reconvened Dr Duncan Driver and Dan Rivkin (They May Be Parted blog) for a discussion on the latest and how what Peter Jackson had to say – and didn’t say – suggests where the project is going and what to expect.

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218: Beatles on Guitar

You may recall my returning guest from his first appearance in late 2020: Mike Pachelli is an accomplished jazz guitarist and recording/performing artist, as well as a major Beatles fan.

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217: It’s All In The Mind

Back in 2018, I had a conversation with Dr. Robert Hieronimus  and Laura Cortner, authors of Inside the Yellow Submarine: The Making of the Beatles’ Animated Classic – the definitive history of the 1968 film.

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