186: Fly on the Wall Two: Holiday Edition
In which SATB listener favorite Jeff Martin returns, and where we honor you, the listener, by running down nearly three hours’ worth of your suggested events to revisit (as winged insects).
In which SATB listener favorite Jeff Martin returns, and where we honor you, the listener, by running down nearly three hours’ worth of your suggested events to revisit (as winged insects).
My guests Alex Cain and Terry McCusker are back, presenting a discussion of their newest work, Ringo’s White Album. Building on their previous work, Ringo Starr and The Beatles’ Beat, this work examines in great detail what Ringo brought to these tumultuous 1968 sessions (which he did walk out of at one point), pushing the boundaries of his art with stylistic innovation as well as advanced studio technique. We also talked a bit about Ringo’s work on Abbey Road, which will be the subject of their next deep dive. Alex and Terry are both drummers themselves; tune in to find out which one of them saw The Beatles in Liverpool at The Cavern (with Ringo’s predecessor).
2019’s Danny Boyle rom-cam featuring a Beatles subtext has inspired a lot of discussion among fans this year, given the pretext of a struggling English musician apparently being the only person on Earth who can remember existence of the group. Most of the chatter was about the film itself, but I thought there were even richer discussions to be had, using the film’s core idea as a springboard. The idea for this show was prompted by an article by my guest, Noah Berlatsky (I would encourage listeners to check it out). He forwarded the notion that buying into the film’s premise required universal agreement that 1) The Beatles were the greatest rock band ever and 2) that their music was so great that its inherent genius would be universally recognized no matter who was performing it, and when. We shall see…. There has never been a musically more diverse episode of SATB than this one: in addition to The Fabs, you will be hearing from artists ranging from Chuck Berry and Moon Mullican to R.D. Burman and Rhianna; Dee Dee Sharp and Elvis to Mobley and Nick Drake. Yet it all fits together: what it means to be a successful artist and what are the factors that result in our bestowing the term “genius” upon them.
Special guests don’t come much more special: today, a man who needs no introduction. His 1974 album, McGear, was produced with a little help from his big brother (“Our Kid” to you). It features contributions from members of a then-contemporary band, including Linda McCartney, Denny Laine and Jimmy McCulloch, and has often been spoken of as a “missing” Wings album. But Mike’s artistry is all his own, making McGear, in a way, the album Paul never did make. This extended conversation covers not only the brand new re-issue from Cherry Red Records (including a bonus disc of unreleased material + DVD and poster, as well as a deluxe vinyl edition) but Mike’s work with The Scaffold – the 1968 McGough and McGear album produced by Paul – and an array of other artists: Paul Robeson – Tina Turner – Pete Wingfield – Paddy Maloney, and Jimi Hendrix. (Try finding that discussion anywhere else.) Also, The Quarry Men. Check out the reissue series here. Find The Weirdos here. Special thanks to Deb Supnik and Matt Ingham of Cherry Red for making it all happen.
In what will be an occasional theme of SATBs going forward, I welcome to the show Gary Wenstrup. In addition to being a regular listener, Gary is a college-level teacher and lecturer, whose expertise encompasses an array of 1960s music acts. He saw an opportunity for following up shows to dig deeper, in ways that might not have been possible given time constraints. This episode uses as the starting off point my interview with Susan Shumsky, detailing The Beatles’ 1968 visit to Rishikesh; but it also encompasses the White Album, Lennon Remembers, and other ancillary subjects.
It’s the return of our favorite Fab historian. In this lengthy dialogue, we discuss an array of literature from the Beatles historical canon: among the works
Fifty years on and the “Paul is dead” hoax has lost none of its power to fascinate on so many levels. Perhaps the most compelling angle for examination is how did something so clearly nonsensical in the light of day get disseminated so widely and not just dismissed out of hand? It seems that a perfect storm of circumstance gave it traction and resonance, with both what was happening within The Beatles and within the community most receptive to believing that truth was not what authority figures told us. Helping unpack all of this is sociologist Candy Leonard, author of Beatleness. Her book covers the subject in some detail. Opening song: “Saint Paul” by Terry Knight Closing song: “So Long, Paul” by Werbley Finster, AKA Jose Feliciano
What happens when the surviving member of a legendary American power pop band and a Los Angeles musician whose lineage includes two giants of the Great American Songbook, both steeped in Beatles, get together to make music? The result is now two albums deep in a band called Those Pretty Wrongs. Jody Stephens, formerly of Big Star and Golden Smog is a singer/songwriter/drummer and Luther Russell is a singer/songwriter/multi-instrumentalist/producer, formerly of The Freewheelers. Their latest release as Those Pretty Wrongs, Zed For Zulu, has just been released. Their insights into making music and what they gleaned from The Beatles makes for a fascinating discussion. Check out their work (and current tour dates) here: http://www.thoseprettywrongs.com/ https://lutherrussell.com/ https://www.ardentstudios.com/
The host of the longest-running Beatles program on US radio, Carter’s passion for The Beatles has taken many forms through the years:
Anybody hear anything about a “newly-revealed” taped Apple meeting from September 1969 that’s been public knowledge since the 1970s? You will now, with the return of journalist/writer Ray Connolly. Ray was tight in The Beatles’ orbit during their final years; with John and Paul especially. He was the only one outside their inner circle to learn that John had “quit” the group – his bio of John, Being John Lennon: A Restless Life, is now out in paperback, as is his indispensable collection, The Ray Connolly Beatles Archive. Last: his novella, ‘Sorry, Boys, You Failed The Audition’ is newly-published. It’s a work of “alternative history” and has been presented as a BBC radio play. Ray and I discuss the end of The Beatles and their relationships going forward, as well as his ‘Sorry Boys’ project. https://www.rayconnolly.co.uk/
Part Two: McCartney and Wings This show represents a deep (3 hour) dive into examining the evolving language of rock criticism: the ideology employed – the fluid definitions of “rock” and “pop” – the application of “authenticity” as a value to an artist’s work, in this specific case, Paul McCartney and Wings. The 1970s was a time when rock critics achieved nearly the status of rock icons themselves: everyone from John Mendelssohn and Jon Landau to Simon Frith and Lester Bangs. Paul’s post-Beatle career stands as an example of an artist that reviewers struggled to get a handle on, resulting in sometimes unfair assessments. Leading this exploration is PhD candidate (with an M.A. in Beatles, Popular Music, and Society) Allison Bumsted, currently studying in England at Liverpool Hope University. For ease of listening, the conversation has been split into two 90 minute parts.
Part One: Background Theory and The Beatles This show represents a deep (3 hour) dive into examining the evolving language of rock criticism: the ideology employed – the fluid definitions of “rock” and “pop” – the application of “authenticity” as a value to an artist’s work, in this specific case, Paul McCartney and Wings. The 1970s was a time when rock critics achieved nearly the status of rock icons themselves: everyone from John Mendelssohn and Jon Landau to Simon Frith and Lester Bangs. Paul’s post-Beatle career stands as an example of an artist that reviewers struggled to get a handle on, resulting in sometimes unfair assessments. Leading this exploration is PhD candidate (with an M.A. in Beatles, Popular Music, and Society) Allison Bumsted, currently studying in England at Liverpool Hope University. For ease of listening, the conversation has been split into two 90 minute parts.
An area heretofore unexplored on SATB is jazz: specifically, which artists took raw material from The Beatles and took it in a new direction. It is our good fortune to have within reach a true legend of the idiom: Ramsey Lewis, a multi-Grammy-winning keyboardist whose work spans decades and genres. In late 1968 – mere weeks after The Beatles’ “White Album” was released – Ramsey issued a 10-song collection drawing from the Beatles’ fresh work. Mother Nature’s Son was hailed as a classic, with bold re-imaginings of songs familiar to us fans – but not like this. His reading of “Julia” became a standard in his repertoire, alongside his well-known hit take on “The ‘In’ Crowd.” Ramsey hosted a jazz show for years on radio, so he is well-familiar with the sonic landscape. But joining us to shed further light is a friend to both me and to Ramsey, going back years: Radio Hall of Fame deejay Terri Hemmert. In addition to spinning records on WXRT since the 1970s until announcing her retirement this year, she also hosted a jazz program for many years (and many of you know her as the MC in Chicago at The Fest for Beatles Fans). Together, listen to these two explore the intersection between Beatles and jazz. Artists heard in this show: The Beatles – Ramsey Lewis Trio – Ella Fitzgerald – Count Basie – Duke Ellington – Louis Armstrong – Wes Montgomery – Ramsey Lewis – Esther Phillips – Vince Guaraldi Trio – George Benson – Earth, Wind and Fire – Paul McCartney – Rahsaan Roland Kirk – Fats Domino – John Scofield – Danger Mouse
1969 was a tremendous year, in the world generally and with The Beatles as well. We find ourselves commemorating (if not celebrating) a number of 50th anniversaries this year, among them the infamous Tate-LaBianca murders; tangentially tied to the “White Album” by Charles Manson’s (mis)reading of certain lyrics. That he was able to incite a bunch of confused misfits into sociopathy remains a fascinating area of study, and SATB has previously explored the purported ties between Charlie’s “gospel” and what the rest of the world heard as simply great music. But reporter and Beatles confidant Ivor Davis is back, with a new book summarizing his investigation into the case, which dates back to day one. Manson Exposed: A Reporter’s 50-Year Journey into Madness and Murder has just been published, and he’s here to present a timely summation of the case, just as public interest has been again raised with director Quentin Tarantino’s latest, Once Upon A Time…in Hollywood. Not only is Ivor uniquely placed to discuss the film, but also to talk about a couple of Beatles events he’d personally witnessed while accompanying them on tour: their 1964 meeting with Bob Dylan, as well as their 1965 visit with Elvis. Check out all his works at ivordavisbooks.com
Few professional scribes received access to The Beatles like Ray Connolly. As a journalist with the Evening Standard, he found himself in the right place at the right time to cover the group during their final years. (It was to him that John confided that he’d quit the group; it was to Ray that Paul divulged: “I didn’t leave the Beatles – The Beatles left the Beatles.”) He later scripted the films That’ll Be The Day and Stardust; he also wrote radio plays and biographies. In 2018, he published Being John Lennon: A Restless Life. His e-book, The Ray Connolly Beatles Archive is essential. We discuss John as he knew him, abetted by Lennon biographer Jude Kessler. Ray’s site: https://www.rayconnolly.co.uk/ “In My Life” performed by Mary Ruane (Talent scouted by Lisa Kasco)
Back in 2017, SATB first explored of Beatles collectors. This year, a terrific addition to Beatle literature arrived with the publication of Terry Crain’s new book, NEMS and the Business of Selling Beatles Merchandise in the U.S. 1964-1966. Terry didn’t merely catalog the merchandise of the period: instead, he methodically researched the history of the items marketed stateside, each of which tells a story itself. There’s a ton of history to be gleaned from these ephemeral footnotes of the era – each one a memory trigger – as well as from Terry’s book. Terry’s site
Beginning in 1978, George Harrison became drawn into a vocation he’d only dabbled in previously: filmmaker. HandMade Films came into being serendipitously, simply because he wanted to see Monty Python’s Life of Brian get made. This “accidental studio” went on to produce work of staggeringly high quality, resulting in works ranging from Time Bandits and The Long Good Friday to Mona Lisa and Withnail and I. (Also: Shanghai Surprise.) The story of George’s cinematic career has now been told, in a new documentary produced by AMC UK: An Accidental Studio. My guests today are two of the documentary’s producers and directors, Bill Jones and Ben Timlett. Join us for this discussion of a surprisingly sturdy cinematic legacy, brought to us by the Quiet Beatle.
The full story of The Beatles’ Rishikesh visit and their relationship with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi had never been explored in detail and from the inside before – until now. Susan Shumsky spent over twenty years studying TM, including seven working directly with the Maharishi. The author of 14 books, her newest – Maharishi and Me: Seeking Enlightenment with the Beatles’ Guru – sheds light on the Rishikesh experience and how it impacted The Beatles’ lives and art. Years of misinformation is cleared aside by her direct knowledge and insider accounts of the good, the bad and the ugly of the Maharishi experience. Susan Shumsky’s site: http://www.divinerevelation.org/
In which I resume the conversation with engineer/producer Jerry Hammack, begun earlier this year. This time, our sounding board is writer/musician/engineer/producer/podcaster/returning guest Anthony Robustelli. We discuss the specifics of their studio work throughout 1967 and into 1968, encompassing Magical Mystery Tour and then some. Jerry’s third volume of The Beatles’ Recording Reference Manual series was recently published. My guests: https://www.beatlesrecordingreferencemanuals.com/ https://www.anthonyrobustelli.com/
The first break-out star at Apple Records was, of course, Mary Hopkin with “Those Were The Days.” A huge international hit, it typed her as a cheery ingénue, somewhat removed from her folk roots (and aspirations). Other hits followed, diverging from her preferred stylistic path, until her second Apple album, Earth Song / Ocean Song (produced by her future husband, Tony Visconti) at last gave her some artistic satisfaction. Her story – at Apple and beyond (including session work for David Bowie, Linda McCartney…and The Beatles) – is recounted here by her daughter, Jessica Lee Morgan (herself a recording artist). Check out Mary’s releases – including archival studio and live recordings, as well as recent work – here: http://www.maryhopkin.com/ Jessica’s releases and tour news can be found here: http://www.jessicaleemorgan.com/ Jessica live in Belgium 2018
Apple Jam is a Seattle-based recording and performing outfit specializing in Beatles music; specifically, songs written by Lennon-McCartney and Harrison that, for the most part, went unrecorded/released as “Beatles” product. My guests today are Richard Lovrovich, Jaekal Tristram and Doug Kilishek. In this conversation, they discuss the curation of obscure Beatles material: the selection process (what makes the cut – and what doesn’t), the recording and the performance of this music. Off The Beatle Track was released in 2009: 1. I’m In Love 2. Tip Of My Tongue 3. Love Of The Loved 4. You Know What To Do 5. I’ll Be on My Way 6. I Don’t Want To See You Again 7. Nobody I Know 8. I’ll Keep You Satisfied 9. It’s For You 10. Hello Little Girl 11. Like Dreamers Do 12. Bad To Me 13. A World Without Love 14. From A Window 15. One And One Is Two Off The White Album was released in 2018: 1. Not Guilty 2. Child of Nature 3. Goodbye 4. Step Inside Love 5. The Rishi Kesh Song 6. Cosmically Conscious 7. India, India 8. Sour Milk Sea 9. What’s the New Mary Jane 10. Circles 11. Suicide https://applejamband.com/home
It is not a unique observation to note that bandleader Duke Ellington and The Beatles shared some commonalities, creativity-wise. They were unclassifiable musically, and a great deal of what made their art magic came from the collaborative process, hardwired into their working method. My guest, musicologist Thomas Brothers, has written a terrific new book – Help: The Beatles, Duke Ellington and the Magic of Collaboration. This conversation provides an overview of his thesis (to be followed up with a deeper exploration soon…).
Last year – upon the 50th anniversary of the release of The Beatles; that eponymous double album issued as the group’s Apple debut – a symposium was convened at Monmouth College in New Jersey
Back in 2017, SATB featured a conversation with Ken Womack on the publication of volume one of his George Martin biography, Maximum Volume (here). In late 2018, volume two emerged, this one taking up the story where George Martin resumed production chores with The Beatles, this time as an independent contractor. It marked the era of their highest artistic achievement as well as an eventual erosion in relations between producer and proteges. This discussion also covers the post-Beatles years and Sir George Martin’s other productions, as well as his curation of The Beatles’ latter-day collections. More about Sound Pictures: The Life of Beatles Producer George Martin (The Later Years 1966 – 2016) here More about Ken’s new novel, I Am Lemonade Lucy here Check out Ken’s site here