174: Once Upon A Time with Ivor Davis

1969 was a tremendous year, in the world generally and with The Beatles as well. We find ourselves commemorating (if not celebrating) a number of 50th anniversaries this year, among them the infamous Tate-LaBianca murders; tangentially tied to the “White Album” by Charles Manson’s (mis)reading of certain lyrics. That he was able to incite a bunch of confused misfits into sociopathy remains a fascinating area of study, and SATB has previously explored the purported ties between Charlie’s “gospel” and what the rest of the world heard as simply great music.

But reporter and Beatles confidant Ivor Davis is back, with a new book summarizing his investigation into the case, which dates back to day one. Manson Exposed: A Reporter’s 50-Year Journey into Madness and Murder has just been published, and he’s here to present a timely summation of the case, just as public interest has been again raised with director Quentin Tarantino’s latest, Once Upon A Time…in Hollywood.
Not only is Ivor uniquely placed to discuss the film, but also to talk about a couple of Beatles events he’d personally witnessed while accompanying them on tour: their 1964 meeting with Bob Dylan, as well as their 1965 visit with Elvis.
Check out all his works at ivordavisbooks.com

10 thoughts on “174: Once Upon A Time with Ivor Davis”

  1. Mr.Davis remembrance of the Elvis meeting seems to somewhat corroborate Lennon’s memory of it.
    Who knows but Lennon’s statement was made in the late 70’s or 1980 which was about 13-14 years earler than the other Beatles filmed meeting and talking about it. Who knows!

  2. Mr.Davis remembrance of the Elvis meeting seems to somewhat corroborate Lennon’s memory of it.
    Who knows but Lennon’s statement was made in the late 70’s or 1980 which was about 13-14 years earler than the other Beatles filmed meeting and talking about it. Who knows!

  3. Amazing episode, loved hearing Mr. Davis’ bird’s eye view of some major moments in Beatles history. And having loved Once Upon A Time In Hollywood, it was extra special to hear his take on that film and that time period. He seems like such a cool character. Excellent interview, Robert – many thanks!

  4. Amazing episode, loved hearing Mr. Davis’ bird’s eye view of some major moments in Beatles history. And having loved Once Upon A Time In Hollywood, it was extra special to hear his take on that film and that time period. He seems like such a cool character. Excellent interview, Robert – many thanks!

  5. Am I the only one who cringed early in the program when Robert and Ivor were gushing over the movie, ‘Once Upon A Time In Hollywood’? I mean, to me, the movie was fairly interesting enough with the attention to detail with the time period settings and such, and the original plot about the struggling has-been actor, but when it went out of its way to tie in a fan-fictionalized version of an actual gruesome and tragic event, it lost its way, and I feel did a disservice to the victims and their survivors. I disagree with Robert’s premise about the title being a giveaway that the story is a fairly tale. Movie titles are often puns or tongue-in-cheek references to the content. To be sure, I knew the movie was not intended to be the actual story of the Manson murders, but I guess I shouldn’t have been surprised by the over the top unrealistic violence and bloodshed in the ‘battle scene’; a Tarantino hallmark. I just thought the murders would have been tied in in a lesser role because they were of the time period, not a far-reaching vehicle to change the plot of the movie (and history) for no reason.

    1. Not everyone raved about the film. Not everyone raved about it. I certainly didn’t. But I can tell you it perfectly captured the mood and the music of that era. I was there. And the Spahn Movie Ranch was spot on. Love it or hate it, I have no doubt it will garner Oscar nominations–but won’t get best picture or best director. We shall see.

  6. Am I the only one who cringed early in the program when Robert and Ivor were gushing over the movie, ‘Once Upon A Time In Hollywood’? I mean, to me, the movie was fairly interesting enough with the attention to detail with the time period settings and such, and the original plot about the struggling has-been actor, but when it went out of its way to tie in a fan-fictionalized version of an actual gruesome and tragic event, it lost its way, and I feel did a disservice to the victims and their survivors. I disagree with Robert’s premise about the title being a giveaway that the story is a fairly tale. Movie titles are often puns or tongue-in-cheek references to the content. To be sure, I knew the movie was not intended to be the actual story of the Manson murders, but I guess I shouldn’t have been surprised by the over the top unrealistic violence and bloodshed in the ‘battle scene’; a Tarantino hallmark. I just thought the murders would have been tied in in a lesser role because they were of the time period, not a far-reaching vehicle to change the plot of the movie (and history) for no reason.

    1. Not everyone raved about the film. Not everyone raved about it. I certainly didn’t. But I can tell you it perfectly captured the mood and the music of that era. I was there. And the Spahn Movie Ranch was spot on. Love it or hate it, I have no doubt it will garner Oscar nominations–but won’t get best picture or best director. We shall see.

  7. Just another fantastic insightful interview and podcast….your work is so wonderful, substantial and inspired… its not easy to do, but I feel that you’re adding new chambers to an eternal Kingdom of that
    Beatles Miracle — thank you so much!

  8. Just another fantastic insightful interview and podcast….your work is so wonderful, substantial and inspired… its not easy to do, but I feel that you’re adding new chambers to an eternal Kingdom of that
    Beatles Miracle — thank you so much!

  9. Dylan getting out the weed that way so deliberately (then just leaving after as if his work was done) … it sure sounds like he was on a mission, consciously passing the torch down, as Ginsburg passed it down to him earlier. Like a sacrament. It changed the direction of Dylan and The Beatles’ work and the culture of the 20th century … Pretty historic.

    Thank you to you and your guest… Just another fantastic insightful interview and podcast. . . . Your work is so wonderful, substantial and inspired… its not easy to do, but you’re adding new rooms to the eternal Kingdom of the
    Beatles Miracle.

  10. Dylan getting out the weed that way so deliberately (then just leaving after as if his work was done) … it sure sounds like he was on a mission, consciously passing the torch down, as Ginsburg passed it down to him earlier. Like a sacrament. It changed the direction of Dylan and The Beatles’ work and the culture of the 20th century … Pretty historic.

    Thank you to you and your guest… Just another fantastic insightful interview and podcast. . . . Your work is so wonderful, substantial and inspired… its not easy to do, but you’re adding new rooms to the eternal Kingdom of the
    Beatles Miracle.

  11. Carlos:
    Of course. It’s journalistic license–he wouldn’t play the entire album. And you are slightly nit-picking. Helter Skelter, Revolution, Rocky Racooon and songs like that were played over and over again. ivor davis

  12. Carlos:
    Of course. It’s journalistic license–he wouldn’t play the entire album. And you are slightly nit-picking. Helter Skelter, Revolution, Rocky Racooon and songs like that were played over and over again. ivor davis

  13. Mike:
    John Lennon told me he was blown away the first time he heard Dylan–and he introduced Dylan to the Beatles. At a party we were at in l964 John was rather taken with Joan Baez–but stepped back when he learned she was Dylan’s girl (at the time)
    A few years later Dylan stayed with John at his home in the UK. But then,I believe they went their separate ways. And of course there was the “sacrament” pot visit in New York with Bob and the Beatles at the airport hotel in New York in l964,

  14. Mike:
    John Lennon told me he was blown away the first time he heard Dylan–and he introduced Dylan to the Beatles. At a party we were at in l964 John was rather taken with Joan Baez–but stepped back when he learned she was Dylan’s girl (at the time)
    A few years later Dylan stayed with John at his home in the UK. But then,I believe they went their separate ways. And of course there was the “sacrament” pot visit in New York with Bob and the Beatles at the airport hotel in New York in l964,

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